Edison International (EIX) Q4 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call summary presents a mixed outlook. While there is a reaffirmation of growth targets and no new equity issuance, there are concerns about wildfire losses and unclear guidance on loss estimates. The Q&A revealed uncertainties in loss assessments and regulatory processes, offset by positive aspects like rate base growth and infrastructure investments. The sentiment remains neutral, as positive growth projections are balanced by unresolved risks and uncertainties in the financial and regulatory landscape.
Key Financial Performance
Core Earnings Per Share (EPS) Edison International's 2025 core earnings per share (EPS) was $6.55, which exceeded the guidance range. This marks the successful delivery of the long-term core EPS growth target established in 2021. The performance reflects disciplined execution, cost management, operational performance, and capital efficiency.
Fourth Quarter Core EPS The fourth quarter core EPS was $1.86. This includes $0.06 of costs attributed to preferred stock tender offers and redemption, and a $0.46 true-up following the final decision in the Woolsey cost recovery proceeding.
Rate Decrease for Residential Customers SCE announced a 2.3% rate decrease for residential customers and a 5.3% decrease for small- and medium-sized business customers. This is attributed to disciplined cost management and maintaining affordability.
Customer Monthly Payment A typical non-CARE residential customer pays about $188 per month in 2025, which is modestly higher than the $180 paid two years ago. This increase reflects disciplined cost management to support affordability.
Capital Investment SCE has invested more than $12 billion for customer safety and reliability over the last two years. This investment supports grid hardening, wildfire risk reduction, and reliability improvements.
Capital Plan for 2026 SCE plans to execute a $7 billion capital plan in 2026 to meet customer needs, focusing on wildfire mitigation, operational excellence, and infrastructure replacement.
Rate Base Growth The projected rate base growth is approximately 7% from 2025 to 2030, driven by essential investments in the grid to meet customer needs and support California's clean energy objectives.
Wildfire Recovery Compensation Program More than 2,300 claims have been submitted under the wildfire recovery compensation program, with associated payments underway. Enhancements to the program include stronger support for displaced renters and increased coverage for legal expenses.
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Operating Highlights
Wildfire Risk Reduction: SCE has installed over 7,000 miles of covered conductor in high fire risk areas, representing over 90% of its planned grid hardening effort. Fast-curve settings are now on 93% of its distribution circuits in high fire risk areas.
Customer Affordability: SCE announced a 2.3% rate decrease for residential customers and a 5.3% decrease for small- and medium-sized business customers. A typical non-CARE residential customer pays about $188 per month, reflecting disciplined cost management.
Capital Investments: SCE has invested more than $12 billion for customer safety and reliability over the last two years. The company plans to execute a $7 billion capital plan for 2026.
Regulatory Clarity: SCE enters 2026 with greater clarity into capital plans, revenue requirements, and operational priorities due to the conclusion of several regulatory proceedings in 2025.
Long-term Financial Outlook: Edison International introduced core EPS guidance for 2026 and 2027, reaffirmed its 2028 outlook, and extended its 5%-7% EPS growth target through 2030. The company projects no equity needs through 2030.
Wildfire Claims Management: SCE has processed over 2,300 wildfire-related claims and announced enhancements to its recovery program, including stronger support for displaced renters and increased legal expense coverage.
Legislative Engagement: The company is actively engaging with policymakers to shape California's energy and resiliency policy, focusing on a whole-of-society solution to mitigate and respond to catastrophic wildfires.
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Risk or Challenges
Wildfire Risk and Liability: SCE continues to face challenges related to wildfire risks, including ongoing claims and potential liabilities. The Eaton fire investigation remains unresolved, and SCE acknowledges the possibility that its equipment may have been associated with the ignition. This creates financial and reputational risks, as well as uncertainties in estimating potential losses.
Regulatory and Legislative Uncertainty: The company is actively engaging with policymakers to maintain a stable regulatory framework. However, the evolving legislative landscape, including the SB 254 natural catastrophe resiliency study, poses challenges to long-term planning and investment stability.
Cost Pressures and Affordability: Despite efforts to manage costs, SCE faces challenges in maintaining affordability for customers while continuing to invest heavily in infrastructure and wildfire mitigation. Rising costs could impact customer satisfaction and regulatory support.
Capital Deployment and Financing: The company plans significant capital expenditures, including $38 billion to $41 billion through 2030, which could strain financial resources. Although no equity needs are projected, efficient financing remains critical to avoid impacting the balance sheet.
Operational Risks: SCE's ongoing grid hardening and wildfire mitigation efforts, while necessary, involve operational complexities and risks. Delays or inefficiencies in these projects could impact reliability and safety.
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Guidance & Outlook
Core EPS Guidance for 2026 and 2027: Core EPS guidance for 2026 is $5.90 to $6.20, and for 2027, it is $6.25 to $6.65. The company expects EPS growth in 2027 to be at the high end of the 5% to 7% range.
Long-term Core EPS Growth Target: The company is extending its 5% to 7% EPS growth target through 2030, reaffirming its 2028 guidance.
Capital Plan and Rate Base Growth: The extended capital plan of $38 billion to $41 billion from 2026 through 2030 includes investments in load growth-driven programs, infrastructure replacement, and wildfire mitigation. The projected rate base growth is approximately 7% from 2025 to 2030.
Advanced Metering Infrastructure (AMI) 2.0 Program: The updated forecast includes nearly $1.5 billion of capital expenditures through 2030 for the AMI 2.0 application, with total spending expected to exceed $3 billion through 2033.
Dividend Yield and Total Shareholder Returns: With an attractive dividend yield of approximately 5% and a long-term core EPS growth target of 5% to 7%, the company offers a compelling case for total shareholder returns of 10% to 12%.
Financing and Equity Needs: The company projects no equity needs for the next five years through 2030 and plans to finance the business efficiently within its 15% to 17% FFO to debt framework.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Dividend Yield: Approximately 5%.
Long-term Core EPS Growth Target: 5% to 7%.
Total Shareholder Returns: 10% to 12%.
Share Buyback Program: No mention of a share buyback program in the transcript.
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Key Q&A
Q:On the Eaton losses, when do you think you would potentially have the low end of losses for the total event?
A:Pedro Pizarro stated that they cannot estimate the low end of losses yet due to the pace of claims processing. Over 2,300 claims have been submitted out of 18,000 eligible properties, and only 590 offers have been made so far. Maria Rigatti clarified that the $1 billion recorded includes payments under the WRCP program and subrogation claim settlements. Pedro added that they cannot estimate a range with confidence required by GAAP due to the many insurance companies involved.
Q:Regarding the 5% to 7% growth and being at the high end in 2027, what are the considerations for 2028 and 2029?
A:Maria Rigatti explained that muted growth in 2026 is due to variances that will not recur, leading to high-end growth in the next few years. For 2029 and 2030, rate base growth will be the primary driver, with a potential step-up as they file for a new General Rate Case decision in May 2027.
Q:On the AMI 2.0 application, what is the anticipated timing for clarity of approvals and the capital dollars embedded in the plan through 2030?
A:Maria Rigatti stated that the filing will occur in the next few months, with a decision expected in about 18 months. The total request is around $3 billion, with $1.5 billion allocated through 2030 and another $1.5 billion post-2030, mostly through 2033.
Q:Any updates on the SB 254 processes and the April 1 CEA report deadline?
A:Pedro Pizarro mentioned robust participation from stakeholders and emphasized the importance of addressing economy-wide issues, including safety, risk reduction, and equitable solutions for catastrophic fires. He highlighted the CPUC report's acknowledgment that utilities cannot bear all risks alone. Maria Rigatti added the need for a predictable framework to support well-priced capital and affordability for customers.
Q:Should we think about a potential faster trajectory in rate base growth from 2028 to 2030?
A:Maria Rigatti emphasized their conservative planning approach and stated that rate base growth remains the primary driver. They focus on efficient financing and operational excellence but do not foresee factors beyond rate base growth driving faster trajectory.
Q:Could you elaborate on the 2026 drivers and variances mentioned?
A:Maria Rigatti explained that variances like depreciation and tax-related items are built into the current year and will not affect year-over-year growth going forward. She also mentioned tax law changes and wildfire debt financing costs as factors that are now accounted for, leaving rate base growth as the primary driver for earnings growth.
Q:Would you tweak the compensation program to achieve objectives, and what are the reasons for recent changes?
A:Pedro Pizarro explained adjustments to the WRCP program, including increased support for tenants and higher compensation for attorney fees (from 10% to 20% of net damages). These changes were based on community feedback and aim to ensure fair and timely compensation while preserving wildfire funds. Maria Rigatti added that the objective is to reduce costs and escalation while maintaining a stable program.
Q:Can you elaborate on the L.A. District Attorney's investigation into the Eaton fire?
A:Pedro Pizarro stated that investigations are expected for events of this scale. SCE is confident in demonstrating that its actions were those of a reasonable utility operator. They will collaborate with the attorney's office as needed and look forward to the CPUC affirming SCE's prudency.
Q:Can you confirm whether the out-of-service transmission tower in Eaton is grounded?
A:Pedro Pizarro confirmed that the idle line was grounded at both ends but noted photographic evidence of anomalies with the grounding. He explained that there is no industry standard for grounding idle lines, but SCE has updated its protocols to require grounding at endpoints and every two miles for longer lines.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided giving a direct answer to when they might have the low end of losses for the Eaton event, citing the pace of claims processing and the involvement of many insurance companies. Additionally, they did not provide specific solutions or potential outcomes for the SB 254 processes, stating that it is still in progress.
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