The Hackett Group, Inc. (HCKT) Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call reveals mixed signals: strong Gen AI engagement and strategic alliances are positive, yet financial metrics show slight declines, and there's uncertainty in strategic partnerships and market conditions. Positive guidance and cash flow improvements are offset by GAAP net income decline and vague management responses. Given these factors, the stock is likely to remain stable in the short term.
Key Financial Performance
Revenues before reimbursements $77.6 million, an increase of 2% year-over-year. The increase was driven by strong revenue growth from Gen AI-related engagements, partially offset by weakness in the OneStream practice.
Global S&BT segment revenues $43.6 million, an increase of 5% year-over-year. Excluding the decrease in OneStream implementation offerings, the segment would have been up 10%. The growth was driven by Gen AI consulting and implementation offerings.
Oracle Solutions segment revenues $20.5 million, a decrease of 7.5% year-over-year. The decline was due to the wind-down of a large post-collab engagement, with replacement taking longer than expected.
SAP Solutions segment revenues $13.5 million, an increase of 11% year-over-year. The growth was driven by implementation services corresponding to increased software sales activity from prior quarters.
Adjusted gross margin 42.8%, compared to 42.3% in the prior quarter. The improvement was attributed to higher-margin Gen AI engagements.
Adjusted SG&A expenses $18.2 million, or 23.4% of revenues before reimbursements, compared to $16.8 million or 22.1% in the prior year. The increase was due to foreign exchange fluctuations and incremental marketing events.
Adjusted EBITDA $16.1 million, or 20.7% of revenues before reimbursements, compared to $16.3 million or 21.5% in the prior year. The slight decline was due to unfavorable foreign exchange movements.
GAAP net income $1.7 million, or diluted earnings per share of $0.06, compared to $8.7 million or $0.31 in the prior year. The decline was due to noncash stock compensation expense and acquisition-related expenses.
Adjusted net income $10.7 million, or adjusted diluted earnings per share of $0.38, compared to $0.39 in the prior year. The decline was due to unfavorable foreign exchange movements.
Cash balances $10.1 million at the end of the quarter, compared to $9.2 million in the previous quarter. The increase was driven by net income adjusted for noncash activity and an increase in accrued expenses, partially offset by income tax payments.
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Operating Highlights
AI XPLR and ZBrain Gen AI platforms: Significant enhancements to these platforms, including the soon-to-be-released version 4 of AI XPLR, which leverages proprietary solution language model and Hackett performance IP. This version accelerates the speed of identifying and designing agentic AI solutions and orchestrates complex workflows.
LeewayHertz acquisition: Acquisition of LeewayHertz, a provider of Gen AI solutions, including the ZBrain orchestration platform. This acquisition supports the development of a Gen AI ideation through implementation SaaS offering.
Accelerator initiative: A new initiative aimed at improving the efficiency and quality of technology implementation services using Gen AI.
Partnership with Celonis: Collaboration with Celonis to integrate process intelligence insights into AI XPLR and ZBrain platforms, creating high ROI AI solutions and expanding channel opportunities.
SAP Solutions segment: Revenue increased by 11% due to implementation services linked to prior software sales, with momentum expected to continue.
Global S&BT segment: Revenue increased by 5%, driven by Gen AI-related engagements, which also improved gross margins due to higher demand for these services.
Oracle Solutions segment: Revenue decreased by 7.5% due to delays in replacing a large engagement, with further impact expected in Q3.
Stock buyback program: Repurchased 180,000 shares at an average price of $24.50 per share, with an increased authorization of $30 million for future buybacks.
Pivot to Gen AI: Aggressive shift towards Gen AI-enabled transformations, leveraging proprietary platforms and strategic alliances to position as a leader in this space.
Joint venture with LeewayHertz founder: Creation of a JV to combine AI XPLR and ZBrain platforms, focusing on licensing and SaaS offerings for Gen AI solutions.
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Risk or Challenges
Oracle Solutions Segment Revenue Decline: The Oracle Solutions segment experienced a 7.5% revenue decline in Q2 2025 compared to the prior year, primarily due to the wind-down of a large engagement. The replacement of this engagement is taking longer than expected, which will significantly impact Q3 2025 revenues.
OneStream Practice Weakness: The OneStream practice within the Global S&BT segment showed weakness, partially offsetting the segment's overall growth. This could indicate challenges in maintaining demand or competitiveness in this area.
Extended Client Decision-Making: Extended decision-making by clients, attributed to economic concerns and the consideration of emerging Gen AI technology, is impacting demand for traditional digital transformation services.
Restructuring and Headcount Adjustments: The company is incurring restructuring charges of $1.5 million to $2 million in Q3 2025 to adjust headcount in response to productivity improvements from Gen AI delivery platforms. This indicates challenges in aligning workforce capabilities with evolving business needs.
Foreign Exchange Impact: Unfavorable foreign exchange movements negatively impacted Q2 2025 adjusted net income by $0.01 per share, highlighting exposure to currency fluctuations.
DSO Increase: Days Sales Outstanding (DSO) increased to 73 days in Q2 2025 from 68 days in the prior year, driven by extended terms and milestone deliverables on large client engagements. This could impact cash flow and liquidity.
Competition for Talent: The company faces competition for experienced executives with high technology agility, which could impact its ability to attract and retain key talent.
Economic Concerns and IT Budget Allocation: Economic concerns are causing organizations to reassess priorities, impacting demand for traditional services. However, there is an increasing allocation of IT budgets to Gen AI initiatives, which may shift focus away from other areas.
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Guidance & Outlook
Revenue Expectations: The company estimates total revenues before reimbursements for the third quarter of 2025 to be in the range of $73 million to $74.5 million. Global S&BT and SAP Solutions segment revenue before reimbursements are expected to increase, while Oracle Solutions segment revenue before reimbursements is expected to decrease by over 20% compared to the prior year.
Margin Projections: Adjusted gross margin as a percentage of revenues before reimbursements is expected to be approximately 43.5% to 44.5%. Adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of revenues before reimbursements is projected to be in the range of approximately 20.5% to 21.5%.
Capital Expenditures: The company will incur restructuring charges in the third quarter of approximately $1.5 million to $2 million, primarily related to severance costs as staff is reduced to align with current demand and expected productivity improvements from Gen AI delivery platforms.
Market Trends: Demand for digital transformation remains strong but is impacted by economic concerns and the consideration of emerging Gen AI technology. IT budgets are expected to increase with specific allocations to Gen AI initiatives in high feasibility and high-impact areas.
Business Segment Performance: Global S&BT segment revenues are expected to grow, driven by Gen AI consulting and implementation offerings. SAP Solutions segment revenues are also expected to increase due to implementation services tied to prior software sales. Oracle Solutions segment revenues are expected to decline significantly due to delays in replacing a large engagement.
Strategic Plans: The company is focusing on Gen AI-enabled transformations, including the release of version 4 of AI XPLR, which enhances the ability to design sophisticated AI solutions. The company is also leveraging its Gen AI-assisted knowledge base and pursuing strategic alliances to expand its market presence.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Dividend Declaration: The Board declared the third quarter dividend of $0.12 per share for its shareholders of record on September 19, 2025, to be paid on October 3, 2025.
Stock Buyback Program: During the quarter, the company repurchased 180,000 shares of the company's stock for an average of $24.50 per share at a total cost of approximately $4.4 million. The remaining stock repurchase authorization at the end of the quarter was $17 million. Subsequently, the company's Board of Directors authorized a $13 million increase in the company's share repurchase authorization, bringing it to $30 million.
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Key Q&A
Q:What interest is being seen in XPLR 3.0, LeewayHertz, and ZBrain, and why does it not feel like the impact is visible yet?
A:The interest is visible on the services side but not yet on the licensing side for AI XPLR. This is because the product has undergone significant changes and improvements, and a licensable version has not been released yet. The company expects to release it shortly and believes the innovations in the product are impressive, as evidenced by client responses and potential channel partner conversations. The delay is acknowledged, but the prospects remain strong.
Q:Why is there no large strategic partner yet, and what is the status of negotiations?
A:The company announced its first strategic alliance with Celonis, a leading process intelligence company, which will expand offerings to joint client bases. Other negotiations are ongoing, with one SI partner turned down due to an unsatisfactory offer. The company expects more channel partner relationships to expand throughout the year with large enterprise software companies and systems integrators.
Q:Are AI-related adjustments to headcount indicative of challenges with Oracle opportunities?
A:The Oracle implementation group is highly recognized but has struggled to replace a large go-live client, negatively impacting Q2 and Q3 results. Adjustments were made to address potential non-Gen AI headcount concerns and to align with Gen AI-related productivity improvements, such as the Accelerator product, which is expected to drive over 20% productivity improvements.
Q:When might OneStream level off and stop being a headwind to growth?
A:Both Oracle and OneStream's comp peaks are in Q3, and the relative comps decrease significantly from Q3 to Q4. The impact is expected to be meaningfully eliminated, providing a clean Q4 comparison.
Q:What are the common applications for Gen AI-related engagements?
A:The most common applications include customer service, customer attrition and revenue management, and customer sales effectiveness. Additionally, large GBS organizations are leveraging Gen AI for operational improvements beyond the capabilities of their core ERP systems.
Q:Is the elevated uncertainty delaying client decisions improving?
A:The initial uncertainty related to tariffs in April had little impact on Q2 but is affecting Q3. The company believes that lower interest rates, reduced tariff noise, and a stronger understanding of Gen AI's potential will drive demand for software and services.
Q:Does the company have the labor resources to meet current AI demand in the GSBT segment?
A:Yes, the company has the necessary resources and continues to add more. Operating improvements from platforms are accelerating design and development. The focus is on providing services along with platform value rather than just headcount.
Q:Has the utilization rate been impacted by training and upskilling employees?
A:No, although there is some ramp-up time for new hires in the Gen AI area. Weakness in utilization was observed in technology groups, which has been addressed by pivoting more aggressively to Gen AI reliance.
Q:How does the XPLR product compare to competitors, and what feedback has been received on version 3 and version 4?
A:Feedback on version 3.5 from a leading AI enterprise software company was excellent, with comments that it is the most complete and thoughtful platform they have seen. Version 4 is expected to further differentiate the product.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing a direct answer regarding the timeline for securing additional large strategic partners beyond Celonis. They also used vague language when discussing the broader market conditions and the potential impact of tariffs and interest rates on client decision-making, without providing specific data or timelines.
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