OGE Energy Corp. (OGE) Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call summary presents a mixed outlook. Basic financial performance and product development are positive, with strong customer growth and capacity expansion plans. However, the Q&A reveals concerns about reliability issues and vague responses from management, particularly regarding CapEx and regulatory impacts. Additionally, while optimistic guidance is given, the lack of specific details on key projects and uncertainties in load growth tempers enthusiasm. Without clear guidance or new partnerships, these factors balance out to a neutral prediction for the stock price movement over the next two weeks.
Key Financial Performance
Consolidated Earnings $1.14 per share, including electric company earnings of $1.20 per share and a loss at the holding company of $0.06. The solid performance was driven by operational excellence, customer focus, and constructive regulatory outcomes.
Consolidated Net Income $231 million or $1.14 per diluted share compared to $219 million or $1.09 per share last year. The increase was driven by increased recovery of capital investments, partially offset by milder weather, higher O&M, and income taxes.
Electric Company Net Income $243 million or $1.20 per diluted share compared to $225 million or $1.20 per share last year. The increase was driven by increased recovery of capital investments, partially offset by milder weather, higher O&M, and income taxes.
Holding Company Loss $12 million or $0.06 per diluted share compared to a loss of $6 million or $0.03 per share last year. The change was primarily attributed to higher interest expense, partially offset by an income tax benefit.
Customer Growth Just under 1% in the third quarter, continuing a healthy multiyear pace.
Weather-Normalized Load Growth 6.5% through the third quarter compared to the same period last year, with an expected total retail normalized load growth of approximately 7.5% in 2025.
Capital Plan Update Includes the Fort Smith to Muskogee transmission line, a $250 million project planned to go into service in 3 phases in 2027, '28, and '29. The project addresses reliability and capacity issues in the Fort Smith, Arkansas area.
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Operating Highlights
Natural Gas Generation: Preapproval request in Oklahoma for building 450 megawatts of natural gas generation, expected to be operational by 2029.
Combustion Turbines: Approximately 550 megawatts of combustion turbines under construction, expected to be operational next year.
Horseshoe Lake Units: Addition of approximately 2,000 megawatts over an 11-year period, with Units 13 and 14 coming into service in 2029.
Customer Growth: Year-over-year customer growth just under 1% in the third quarter.
Load Growth: Weather-normalized load growth of 6.5% through the third quarter, with total retail normalized load growth expected to be 7.5% in 2025.
Data Center Load: Growing interest in service area from data centers, with negotiations and conversations progressing.
Economic Development: Diversified business growth, including a major expansion project for a plastics manufacturer adding 4.5 megawatts of load and creating hundreds of jobs in Shawnee, Oklahoma.
Fuel Cost Adjustment: Reduction in fuel cost adjustment beginning November 1, lowering average residential customer bills by approximately $6.75 per month.
Capital Plan Update: Inclusion of the Fort Smith to Muskogee transmission line, a $250 million project addressing reliability and capacity issues, planned to go into service in phases from 2027 to 2029.
CWIP Recovery: Requested CWIP recovery on Horseshoe Lake Units 13 and 14 to reduce long-term costs to customers and support the balance sheet during construction.
Affordability Focus: Maintaining low rates as a competitive advantage, with nonfuel rates increasing at less than half the rate of inflation over the past decade.
Economic and Business Development: Intentional efforts to attract new customers and support community growth through low rates and reliable electric service.
Earnings Growth: Confident in achieving a consolidated earnings growth rate of 5% to 7% based on the midpoint of 2025 guidance.
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Risk or Challenges
Regulatory Approvals: The company is awaiting a preapproval request in Oklahoma for building 450 megawatts of natural gas generation, which could face delays or unfavorable outcomes, impacting future operational plans.
Construction Projects: The company has 550 megawatts of combustion turbines under construction and plans for additional projects, which could face risks such as cost overruns, delays, or supply chain disruptions.
Economic Conditions: While local economies are strong, broader economic uncertainties or downturns could impact customer growth and demand.
Interest Expense: The holding company reported higher interest expenses, which could strain financial performance if borrowing costs continue to rise.
Weather Variability: Milder weather this summer compared to last year partially offset income gains, indicating sensitivity to weather conditions.
Load Growth Projections: The company expects strong load growth, but any deviation from these projections could impact financial performance and strategic plans.
Rate Reviews: The timing of rate reviews in Oklahoma and Arkansas could affect revenue recovery and financial planning.
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Guidance & Outlook
Earnings Guidance: The company remains confident in delivering results in the top half of its 2025 earnings guidance range, with a consolidated earnings growth rate of 5% to 7% based on the midpoint of the 2025 guidance.
Capital Investments: The company plans to build 450 megawatts of natural gas generation, operational by 2029, and has approximately 550 megawatts of combustion turbines under construction, expected to be operational next year. Additionally, the Fort Smith to Muskogee transmission line, a $250 million project, is planned to go into service in three phases in 2027, 2028, and 2029.
Load Growth: Weather-normalized load growth is expected to reach approximately 7.5% in 2025, driven by strong customer growth and increasing demand, including incremental load from data centers.
Economic Development: The company anticipates continued diversified business growth, including commercial and industrial sectors, supported by low rates and reliable electric service. Negotiations with data centers are progressing, with updates expected in the near future.
Regulatory Approvals: The company expects an order in a few weeks for its preapproval request in Oklahoma, which will allow it to proceed with its natural gas generation project. It has also reached a settlement in the Oklahoma preapproval request, potentially moving the planned Oklahoma rate review to the second half of next year.
Customer Rates: Oklahoma customers will see a decrease in their monthly bills starting November 1, with an average reduction of $6.75 per month due to a reduction in the fuel cost adjustment.
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Key Q&A
Q:How quickly do you think the $250 million CapEx update and the additional 800 megawatts in the IRP will start rolling into the plan?
A:The approval for the pre-approval settlement is anticipated in a couple of weeks, after which it will be layered into the plan. Additional filings will be made based on the last RFP, and a new RFP will commence to address further needs. Updates will be continuous rather than limited to the fourth quarter.
Q:Should we expect more periodic updates instead of the usual fourth-quarter updates?
A:Yes, there will still be the normal fourth-quarter update, but additional updates will be provided as approvals for generation additions are received.
Q:How significant is the impact of the new regulatory constructs on the ROE lag, and will these benefits be included in '26 planning assumptions?
A:The new regulatory constructs are accretive to minimizing ROE lag. Some impacts are disclosed in the 10-Q, and further details will be provided with next year's guidance.
Q:Do you see the '26 load growth being higher than planning assumptions given the ramp schedules for C&I load?
A:A full update will be provided in February, but no changes in the fundamentals driving results in the service area are currently seen.
Q:What is your competitive position in Oklahoma to pursue more projects like the SPP project added to CapEx?
A:The company is closely involved with the SPP process. While the 2025 SPP ITP plan is expected to be robust, milestones and SPP Board meetings are pending before firm opportunities can be identified.
Q:Are contract negotiations still ongoing with the Google Stillwater project, and will the large load tariff be filed with the next rate case?
A:Yes, contract negotiations are ongoing. The large load tariff will be filed as required in the settlement, or earlier if an agreement is finalized.
Q:Is the new load growth outlook of 7.5% for 2025 at the low end of the prior range, and what is driving this?
A:Yes, it is at the low end due to timing issues, including one customer coming in a quarter later than anticipated.
Q:How will the 850-megawatt shortfall by 2030 be addressed, and will new RFPs be required?
A:Some capacity opportunities exist in the current RFP, but a new RFP will also be filed. The timing of the 800 megawatts depends on the ramp rate of a specific customer, and the second RFP is expected to move at a quicker pace.
Q:Does the year-to-date sales growth of 6.5% imply significant acceleration into the fourth quarter, and how does this affect 2026 sales growth?
A:Yes, the year-to-date growth implies acceleration into the fourth quarter. Delayed customer additions should drive higher sales growth year-over-year into 2026.
Q:Should the dividend growth rate be expected to align with the EPS CAGR?
A:The dividend growth rate has been intentionally lower to align with investment opportunities, targeting a 65%-70% payout ratio. Once this target is reached, the growth rate will be reassessed.
Q:Will the cadence of rate filings remain similar after the shift to the second half of '26?
A:Yes, the philosophy remains unchanged, and future filings will follow the same approach, adjusted for the settlement agreement.
Q:What is the equity component for the $250 million CapEx increase, and will financing plans be shared in the Q4 update?
A:The equity component will be clarified after approval of the largest pending increase. Financing plans will be communicated in the Q4 update.
Q:What stage are discussions at for data center projects, and how will capacity needs be met?
A:Discussions are at advanced stages, and announcements are expected soon. Capacity needs have been provisioned in the last IRP and will depend on the counterparty's ramp rate.
Q:How would rolling in the pre-approval generation and data center deals affect the long-term EPS CAGR?
A:The 5%-7% EPS CAGR range remains solid regardless of these deals. Adjustments to the trend line will be considered annually based on the overall position.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management avoided providing direct answers or lacked clarity on several occasions: 1) The specific equity component for the $250 million CapEx increase was not disclosed, with clarity deferred to the Q4 update. 2) Details on the competitive position in Oklahoma for SPP projects were vague, with firm opportunities pending milestones and Board meetings. 3) The impact of the new regulatory constructs on ROE lag was not quantified, with further details deferred to next year's guidance. 4) The timing and specifics of the 800-megawatt shortfall resolution were not fully detailed, with reliance on future RFPs and customer ramp rates. 5) Discussions on data center projects were described as advanced, but no concrete details or timelines were provided.
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