urban-gro, Inc. (UGRO) Q1 2024 Earnings Call Transcript
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Overview
The earnings call presents a mixed picture: revenue decreased by 7% YoY, but gross profit and adjusted EBITDA improved. The cannabis industry's potential reclassification is a positive long-term catalyst, but short-term financial guidance is not strong. Operating expenses decreased significantly, yet the backlog also fell. The Q&A revealed cautious optimism about cannabis rescheduling but no immediate impact. Overall, the financial results are mixed with some positive developments, leading to a neutral sentiment.
Key Financial Performance
Revenue $15.5 million, a decrease of $1.2 million or 7% year-over-year from $16.8 million, driven by a $0.4 million decrease in construction design-build revenue, a $0.4 million decrease in equipment systems revenue, and a $0.3 million decrease in services revenue.
Gross Profit $3.1 million or 20% of revenue, an increase from $2.1 million or 17% of revenue year-over-year, driven by improved margins in services and construction design-build revenues.
Operating Expenses $5.2 million, a decrease of $2.7 million or 34% year-over-year from $7.9 million, attributed to the company's expense optimization and resource reallocation initiative.
Net Loss $2.1 million or a negative $0.18 per diluted share, an improvement from a net loss of $5.1 million or a negative $0.48 per diluted share year-over-year.
Adjusted EBITDA Negative $0.3 million, an improvement of $3.1 million year-over-year, driven by lower operating expenses.
Backlog $99 million, a decrease of $11 million or 10% sequentially, with 76% from the CYA sector and 24% from the commercial sector.
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Operating Highlights
Market Positioning: The US Drug Enforcement Agency is supporting the Department of Health recommendation to reclassify cannabis from Schedule I to Schedule III, which is expected to provide a catalyst for the cannabis industry.
Market Expansion: Urban-gro is actively engaged with clients in multiple fronts in the cannabis sector, anticipating steady activity and continued signing of services and construction contracts.
Market Trends: Approximately 72% of revenues in Q1 2024 came from commercial sectors, indicating a diversification strategy that has insulated the business from headwinds in the cannabis sector.
State-Level Developments: Progress continues on legalization in multiple states, with Florida's adult-use recreational sales on the ballot in November, which could significantly impact urban-gro.
Operational Efficiency: Urban-gro reported positive cash flow from operations and the strongest quarterly adjusted EBITDA results in two years, attributed to diversified revenue streams and reduced operating expenses.
Cost Reduction: The company realized a $2.8 million improvement in adjusted EBITDA compared to Q1 2023, driven by an $8 million reduction in general and administrative expenses.
Backlog: Urban-gro's backlog remains strong at $99 million, with 76% from the Controlled Environment Agriculture sector.
Strategic Shift: Urban-gro is maintaining its guidance for over $84 million in revenue and positive adjusted EBITDA for the full year 2024, despite uncertainties related to cannabis rescheduling.
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Risk or Challenges
Regulatory Risks: The company faces uncertainties related to the timing and final approval of cannabis rescheduling, which could impact operational strategies and market conditions.
Market Sentiment: Despite recent positive developments, operators in the cannabis sector are exhibiting cautious optimism, indicating potential volatility in market conditions.
Supply Chain Challenges: The company is experiencing persistent state-level regulatory and legal delays that could affect project timelines and operational efficiency.
Economic Factors: The company is navigating through various macroeconomic scenarios, which could impact financial performance and operational flexibility.
Backlog Decrease: The total backlog decreased by $11 million or 10% sequentially, indicating potential challenges in securing new projects.
Revenue Decrease: There was a year-over-year revenue decrease of $1.2 million or 7%, driven by a downturn in the cannabis industry affecting construction and service revenues.
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Guidance & Outlook
Backlog: The total backlog as of March 31, 2024, was approximately $99 million, reflecting a decrease of $11 million or 10% on a sequential basis.
Revenue Diversification: In the first quarter, approximately 72% of revenues came from the commercial sectors, while 28% came from Controlled Environment Agriculture (CEA).
Revenue Guidance: For full year 2024, the company is maintaining its guidance to recognize more than $84 million in revenue.
Adjusted EBITDA Guidance: The company expects to generate positive adjusted EBITDA for the full year 2024.
Market Outlook: The successful rescheduling of cannabis is anticipated to reinvigorate the industry, potentially increasing working capital for cannabis operators.
Federal and State Developments: Prospects of passing a banking-related bill by year-end and legalization efforts in states like Florida could significantly impact urban-gro's business.
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Shareholder Return Plan
Shareholder Return Plan: urban-gro has not announced any share buyback or dividend program during the call.
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Key Q&A
Q:Are you seeing operators come in engaging more in your services in Florida with the potential vote for adult use?
A:Yes, there is a positive uptake in Florida, with operators preparing for large orders and entering the design stage for new facilities.
Q:Can you provide a cadence for the remaining of 2024 regarding your revenue guidance?
A:We are cautiously optimistic and believe we have turned the corner. The backlog remains strong, and we are off to a good start in Q1.
Q:What is the typical timing for a project to go from discussion phase to revenue?
A:Typically, it can take as long as two years or as short as nine months, with an average of about a year and a half.
Q:How long will it take to notice an increase in CapEx industry-wide?
A:The backlog at the end of Q2 will be a good indicator, and we expect early indicators from services and equipment.
Q:What is the gross margin outlook going forward?
A:We expect margins to remain steady, but they may fluctuate based on revenue mix and project types.
Q:What percent of your backlog is cannabis-related?
A:76% of the backlog is CEA related, and 24% is commercial.
Q:What are you seeing in terms of demand for the commercial business?
A:Demand remains strong, but the timing between verbal awards and actual signatures is a concern.
Q:What are the trends in the European market?
A:Demand in Europe remains weak, but we are positioned for future growth in the cannabis and vertical farming markets.
Q:Review of Unclear Management Responses
A:Management appeared to avoid giving a direct answer regarding the timing of the final consent decree for the rescheduling of cannabis, stating it would take 3 to 5 months for approval without providing specific details.
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